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Offline lifipaj

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« Reply #15 on: 08/November/2009 »
Iskreno da ti kažem pusti telefone i pozive, oni su ti u Tkalči, Uspinjača ili EP ista stvar!!

Siniša (gazda) će ti odmah sve reć u glavu da li bi imao šanse ili ne!!!

Zato nemoj puno zvat!!

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« Reply #16 on: 09/November/2009 »
Vidi, nije sve u Uspinjaci.  no;;;

Samo za primjer, SafeCruise iz Beograda pripremaju veliki interview za brdo pozicija u Decembru, a ima i drugih agencija. Neka decko ne odustaje. Dobro je primjetio da je veliki broj ljudi otisao na kruzere bez iskustva.

Uvijek se nadje nacin, ako je covjek ozbiljan u namjeri.  :deda:
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« Reply #17 on: 09/November/2009 »
vidi jarane ja sam znaci bez iskustva prvi put otisao na taj EP intervju u beograd s tim da sam vec prije cak u januaru prijavljivao ali nisam otisao odustao sam, prva pozicija tamo je uvijek assist waiter to znam, i ja sad odem ponovo u beograd 3 oktobra cini mi se i prati ovo tamo ja slucajno vidim svoj fajl sto ga cuva Sinisa i tamo ti gleda najvise izgled ono kako se oblacis higijena, to znaci kakvim te sinisa vidio na pred intervju, imao sam tamo petice a isto je bilo technical skills to sam nula imao jer nikad  za konobara nisam radio ja sam po struci elektro tehnicar, ali mene je izvuklo sto uzas dobro znam engleski i studirao sam ga godinu, eh sad kad izadjes pred onog amera sve o tome ovisi , i ja sam njemu fino sve ispricao kako sam radio sa amerikancima 3 godine, kako znam engleski studirao sam, i on mene stavi za supper club servera koji cujem je mnogo bolje od assit waitera i sinisa se bio iznenadio i eto to bi bilo to :P
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« Reply #18 on: 09/November/2009 »
@Devious, mislim da svatko mora imati barem nesto u cemu je malo jaci, kao sto si ti jaci sa engleskim, da bi se mogao nadati prolazu na jacu poziciju. Onda cak i "nula u technical skills" gubi vaznost.
A najjaca prednost je znati sto hoces.
Ako covjek dodje sa stavom: "A sta bi ja mogao radit na brodu?", propao je ...  :pop1:
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« Reply #19 on: 09/November/2009 »
@Devious, mislim da svatko mora imati barem nesto u cemu je malo jaci, kao sto si ti jaci sa engleskim, da bi se mogao nadati prolazu na jacu poziciju. Onda cak i "nula u technical skills" gubi vaznost.
A najjaca prednost je znati sto hoces.
Ako covjek dodje sa stavom: "A sta bi ja mogao radit na brodu?", propao je ...  :pop1:


Pa da potpuno se slazem ali covjek mora pretpostaviti da kad se vec ide na brod to se mora odluciti i moras znati koliko mozes i umijes , da ne prodajes ljudima zrak
Bitan je stav, jaka volja i ono ukratko ako znas sta oces dobices eventualno, i jos plus zaboravio sam reci u EP na glavnom intervju Vlado radis kao neki mini test od negdje 50 pitanja engleskog jezika kosta te 10 eura i  to je iskljucivo test za crew lagano je ako znas ako ne pomogne raje okolo ako pitas :P imao sam 95% za 15 minuta hihihi to da se pohvalim
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« Reply #20 on: 09/November/2009 »
Hehe, ma ok, engleski mi nije bed uopce, rjesavao sam i ja neki online test cisto da vidim kakvi su to tipovi testova i sve mi bilo tocno, hehe (da se ja sad pohvalim). Ako cu probavat preko ikoga na brod, prva opcija mi je gospodja Suzana iz Lovrana, poslala mi je mail sa dosta informacija pa sad to proucavam. Iako, moram vam reci da mi je moral malo pao..Hebiga, jos uvijek razmisljam, cak i ako dobijem posao pursera, koji je dosta tesko dobit za prvi ugovor, placa je 1500 dolara. Dolar je 4,8 kn, sto je jako malo, zaokruzimo na 5 i to je 7500 kn placa mjesecno s time da se radi citav dan svaki dan i da je posao dosta tezak i tretiran si dosta lose(od strane gostiju ponajvise) a i puno se od tebe ocekuje za budimo iskreni, male novce koji su u Hrvatskoj neka prosjecna placa za baustelce (koji, istina, tesko rade, ali imaju i slobodne dane i nisu udaljeni od doma pol godine). Glavni motiv za odlazak mi sigurno nije placa, nego odlazak iz monotonije i nemotivirajuce sredine, ali ako vec idem, naravno da zelim zaraditi sto vise novaca i naravno da gledam u buducnost. Puno sam citao o purserima i na ovom forumu i na drugima, evo vam npr jedan post sa nekog stranog foruma (budem ovo postao i u purser kategoriju).:



I have just come back from 3 weeks training  as a Purser with Carnival Cruise lines and wanted to warn anyone out there before they go.I got the job offer back in April. Gave my job up,and then received a letter from the above mentioned company telling me I needed to get my C1 Visa and a medical (which I had to pay for myself) It was a couple of months and a thousand pounds later before I was finally in Miami,awaiting our ship-'Carnival Fascination' where all new pursers are trained.

 College was relentless. You are supposed to spend 2 weeks in college and 2 weeks on the 'window' (front desk) when you are assessed and sent to a new ship afterwards,but what they didn't tell us was that you can be thrown off the course at any time,due to poor exam results.even though you are told at first you will be assessed at the end of 4 weeks.

 Our 'trainer'  was a complete cow.and worked us like dogs. We never knew what our schedule was going to be until the same day.which meant that we could never make plans in advance or arrange to be in our cabins to await phone calls from our families.We were all unbelievably homesick,but if you were upset it was thought you were 'unstable' and no sympathy was offered.

 We were expected to learn far too much information in the space of 2 weeks it was unbelievable,on top of 3 exams in 2 weeks on the company,history and procedures,we also had to pass a Safety exam,learn 2 folders on the 2 computer sysstems used on board, attend tutorials,boat drill,corporate training and shadowing on the desk.Any spare moment was spent studying.It all started getting on top of us all.Many of us were crying,nervy ,exhausted and distressed at the pressure,at college and in any spare time we had.We were lucky to get a couple of hours off,and we all remember running around Nassau with only an hour and a half to do everything and get back.

 If you are considering working on a ship there is one very important thing you must remember.No-one is your friend,Do not trust anyone and everyone knows everything about you.Keep your head down and hide when you are upset.

After 10 days (only 2 on the desk)  2 of us were dismissed,interestingly out of 9 of us who started together only one other person who hadn't been on a ship before managed to pass the exams.The others had a head start having worked in different departments and this is typically unfair. You don't get a second chance even if you have never worked on board before.You are expected to understand all ship board terms and learn parrot fashion in true American style from reading and don't get a chance at the practical work.

It is important everyone realises this as  my friend and I  didn't and learnt the hard way.We were dismissed immediately on the strength of two weeks of written exams and anyone who is not an American is escorted off the premises by their own Immigration Officer who has you 'under guard' from the moment you leave until the moment you board the plane(which in my friends case was 6 hours) She felt she was treated like a criminal and arrived back in her country with huge debts and very disilusioned with Carnival Cruise lines.

Everyone I spoke to in my 2 weeks had something to say about Carnival.The best was from another purser who said she was exhausted.Carnival not  only expect you to work every day but every second of the day(which is apparently exclusive to Carnival and especially 'MS Fascination') She said my colleague and I were lucky to be leaving and she wished she could go.She said she hated the bitching there,but had such massive debts to pay off she had no choice.

I met others that had no choice.workers spending 15 hours a day cleaning and were not appreciated. Carnival hire  more workers and pay less than any other Cruise Line.I felt exhausted and disappreciated when I left. That's not to say I would work for another Cruise Line.I just feel we should be told before we begin and pay all  that money out that it could all fall through in a few weeks.

Any other stories would be glad to hear...

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« Reply #21 on: 09/November/2009 »
uff tom je pravo lose bilo izgleda nadam se da se meni tako nesto nece desiti , sumnjam ali sad tog college nema cini mi se vise
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« Reply #22 on: 09/November/2009 »
Taj post sam vise puta procitao, a kruzi medju ljudima koji se boje vlastite sjenke.
Ima i onaj o filipinki koja radi kao purser, kada pokazuje slike svoje djece koje nije vidjela xy mjeseci i place.
U svakoj mogucoj profesiji postoji netko tko moze o svom poslu napisati ovako demoralizirajuci post.
Radije poslusajte rankica, koja je odradila ugovor kao purser i aktivna je na forumu, nego sto slusate amerikance, kojima je naknada za nezaposlenost veca od place pursera na brodu.
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« Reply #23 on: 09/November/2009 »
Naravno sefe, samo sam htio i drugu stranu pokazat, razlicita iskustva, tek toliko da ljudi budu svjesni svih aspekata, pa da donesu pravu odluku

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« Reply #24 on: 09/November/2009 »
Ovaj ko je pisao je mamina maza neka teska...   :hekla:

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« Reply #25 on: 10/November/2009 »
 Slažem se sa Excaliburom i Šefom! Po ovako pročitanim postovima mislim da si ti Vlado previše neodlučan i više te zanima 
  ona loša strana broda a ne dobra, a dobrih sigurno ima više, što se može pročitat na forumu od veterana!! Bitno je samo
  koliko ti SAM možes donosit ovakve ŽIVOTNE ODLUKE!!

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« Reply #26 on: 10/November/2009 »

 Po ovako pročitanim postovima mislim da si ti Vlado previše neodlučan i više te zanima  
  ona loša strana broda a ne dobra ...


Ne neeee ... Vlado je ok, on je samo pronasao nekoga tko je napisao vlastito negativno iskustvo, na vrlo elokventan i zivopisan nacin. Vlado zeli znati u cega se upusta, i gugla "cruise ship purser", to je pohvalno.

Ja propagiram da se na taj post gleda iz vise aspekata, npr. napisao ga je netko kome je engleski maternji jezik, netko tko ima puno vise izbora u zivotu od Istocnih Evropljana i Balkanaca.
Ima li na ovome forumu itko kome je engleski maternji jezik? Nema.
Znate li koliki je postotak amerikanaca u posadi broda? Oko 2%.

Ne treba brkati kruske i jabuke.  :deda:
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« Reply #27 on: 10/November/2009 »
Hvala sefe  :D iako moram priznat da jesam postao malcice neodlucan kad stavim sve na papir...
Eto, odluka je na meni (prije nego sto uopce nazovem gospodju Suzanu), a onda dolaze i drugi faktori, a ti su dal bi uopce dobio posao pursera i kolko bi morao cekat da kompanija (Carnival cruise) pocne trazit pursere, jer trenutno ne trazi.
Ljudi hvala svima na svim informacijama koje sam dosad dobio, dalje je na meni!
U svakom slucaju, trebao bih probat bar da vidim da li imam sanse, pozdrav!

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« Reply #28 on: 13/November/2009 »
Ova koja je napisala ovaj post, prvi dan bi rezala vene ako bi radila u firmi u kojoj ja sada radim.

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« Reply #29 on: 23/December/2009 »
Best of...


...Many of us were crying,nervy ,exhausted and distressed at the pressure,at college and in any spare time we had...   :rofl:

...If you are considering working on a ship there is one very important thing you must remember.No-one is your friend,Do not trust anyone and everyone knows everything about you.Keep your head down and hide when you are upset...   :rofl:

...Everyone I spoke to in my 2 weeks had something to say about Carnival.The best was from another purser who said she was exhausted...   :rofl:
 

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl: